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What was the first federated social media?

Please share the references and thanks in advance.

@ademalsasa Diaspora*

@a1batross I myself knew federation, decentralization for the first time was from Diaspora -- I also figured out join[insert-a-fedi-here] domain name for the first time from it --, indeed, but was it really the first one? Could you please kindly elaborate?

@ademalsasa it was indeed my first social federated network. Even diasp.org is still online.

Diaspora* had a potential but imho it's died as project with it co-founder. RIP :(

@a1batross my condolences to him and his family and everyone he left. Could you please elaborate the end of Diaspora project?

@ademalsasa when I joined it in 2012, the project was already quite stalled.

As far as I know, nobody from it's original authors is working on Diaspora today. As a final nail in the coffin, it's maintainer declined AP support request: https://github.com/diaspora/diaspora/issues/7422

While I can understand that supporting ActivityPub early had a certain risk, in the retrospective we can say it wasn't a wise decision.

@a1batross what a real effort they made for Diaspora. I am eternally grateful to what they did. However, I understand it now that Diaspora is the one without ActivityPub (as I forgot and tried to recall but failed). Thank you for your explanation, I am grateful.

@ademalsasa Diaspora

Hello my friend @strypey, I have a question about fediverse history above, could you please kindly tell me the answer? I am researching on this for myself.

@ademalsasa

2008 for Identi.ca

If there was something else before that, I'm not sure what it was.
Both @claudiom and I were on identi.ca , Friendi.ca is / was kind of an offshoot from that.
Disapora is not that old, and came from a want/neet to break off from FB, Twitter, and Google Plus.

@randynose thank you very much, Randy! This is what I am looking for. Now the question has been answered.

@claudiom

@ademalsasa Diaspora (thanks for reminding me about the name @randynose ), and even thou it is more micro-blogging than what I was searching for (was looking more for a Facebook/Google+ alternative) I think Mastodon and Pleroma are far more successful 😎👍

@ademalsasa probably usenet or fidonet or similar

@deutrino @ademalsasa I think Usenet predated Fidonet, but they were both pretty close. I think Usenet was a project of various universities with some of the very early autodialers and UUCP in 1979, while Fidonet emerged out of the Hobby space as home computers grew in popularity, in the 83-84 range. I was a Fidonet user long before I knew what Usenet was though.
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@ademalsasa Same here, Fidonet was the first for me. A few years later I discovered Usenet but only when I joined university, because we had Internet there - while Fidonet was operating 100% without Internet, based on PCs with modems dialing each other.

@claudiom @randynose @ademalsasa I thought laconi.ca was the company built around it?

@claudiom @randynose @ademalsasa The naming was always a little confusing. I was around in the early days too (just passed 13 years in the fediverse)

@murph hello, Senior. Glad to find you and hear your experience.

@claudiom @randynose

@a1batross @ademalsasa tbf AP is kinda bad as a protocol

@meeper @a1batross @ademalsasa and also diaspora wasn't designed with AP in mind

@meeper @a1batross @ademalsasa also why are gnu social and identi.ca seperate

@a_breakin_glass @meeper @a1batross @ademalsasa As I understand it, GNUsocial was the branch that was created when identi.ca adopted pump.io as a protocol, leaving the older (now renamed) GNUsocial. As it turned out, both continued on, with limited results. So identi.ca predated GNUsocial.

@murph thank you very much. This is what I was looking for, Senior. Now I understand that Identica was the first one.

@a_breakin_glass @meeper @a1batross

@ademalsasa @a_breakin_glass @meeper @a1batross I'm glad to help. Keep in mind, however, that I have no idea on the diaspora and frendica timelines, so don't consider this all canonical. It's just what I recall from hanging around and enjoying the community.

@murph @ademalsasa @a_breakin_glass @meeper @a1batross

The guy who kicked all of this off was Evan Prodromou, and he gave the keynote talk for the ActivityPub 2020 conference. You might enjoy hearing what he had to say. I did a report on this for HPR.

https://conf.tube/videos/watch/c79457a9-aae5-47dd-8731-617e6b09fe06

@Ahuka thank you, thank you sir Ahuka! This is history!

@murph @a_breakin_glass @meeper @a1batross

@ademalsasa @Ahuka @a_breakin_glass @meeper @a1batross I have to see if I can find the LibrePlanet talk that Evan gave sometime around 2010 or 2012 or so. If I can find It, I'll pass it along.

@murph mmm, that sounds very legit. I would love to watch it too.

@Ahuka @a_breakin_glass @meeper @a1batross

@ademalsasa @Ahuka @a_breakin_glass @meeper @a1batross I'm going from memory, and a first look had brought up nothing. Sorry to raise expectations.

@ademalsasa @Ahuka @a_breakin_glass @meeper @a1batross I did however, find this: https://opensource.com/life/13/7/pump-io
From when the pump.io split happened.