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This is what happens when your dying site rewards users by throttling them, shadowbanning them, and banning them for having an opinion.

Come to the fediverse. We don't do this.

@parisc
Fediverse promise: "we don't do this"
Fediverse reality 1: I am banned from fetching QV at HTTP level (403)
Fediverse reality 2: https://rathersafe.space/fediblock
Fediverse reality 3: https://github.com/chaossocial/about/blob/master/blocked_instances.md

@union There's a difference between the mentally ill walling themselves off from the rest of the world, and a central authority walling you off from the rest of the world.

Twitter is the latter, and so is Facebook, YouTube, etc. When Jim really got into his Twitter addict phase, he noticed Twitter began to throttle him for getting too big and so he made this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU6VS1lDx0E

Even before censorship really amplified Twitter would censor you silently via what I talked about. In this case, throttling and "the algorithm" fuck you easily for posting the wrong opinions or not even using the site enough.

@parisc I see your point, although in both cases the decisions by the censorship authority affect what I can see and interact with on the network. It's just in case of fediblockers their ability to disrupt is somewhat limited when compared to Twitter's censors.

@union I think the thing keeping them from having much control compared to central censors too is the fact there are a lot of single user instances, and the fact some of the biggest instances are censored by the fediblock types. poa.st, spinster, baarag, and pawoo are blocked by many of those block happy instances if not all of them, and yet they are also some of the largest instances. More free-speech friendly instances or instances with minimal block policies also tend to not block instances.

If I ran my own instance on pleroma or even Mastodon my instance by default wouldn't subscribe to some blocklist.

I was genuinely worried about fediblock and other blocklists shared around hurting the fedi's adoption, but considering how that hasn't stopped multiple censored groups from using the fedi I've worried less.

@parisc @union I run my own instance just so I never have to follow someone else's blocklist.

@kazriko @parisc I am on a private instance too, of course. And blocks do not affect me in any major way. That point is well taken. Nonetheless, look at e.g. mastodon.online blocking poa.st. Both are massive instances.