A European view, I quote:
| to me it's become obvious by now that they're really trying to bait Russia or China into another Pearl Harbor
| the difference is this time everyone involved has nukes
| also I agree with Mearsheimer's talk last week that Zelensky is basically held at gunpoint by his western handlers
| or rather the Ukrainian nationalists which are doing all the dirty work
| he did actually try to enact the Minsk 2 accord when he was elected but was blocked by the nationalists
| and the West is not allowing him to strike any sort of deal with Russia to stop the fighting
| how one of the Ukrainian diplomats at the Minsk talks was suddenly executed for "treason" was probably a warning
| it's crazy how our media just let that one slide
| no questions asked
Heck I noticed that too, and I'm in America. But I don't agree that Zelensky only does what he's told. He's constantly lashing out against his puppet masters. Remember how _before the invasion_ Joe Biden told him not to go to Munich? He went there anyway, and then publicly denounced Budapest and promised that Ukraine will build own nuclear weapons. He literally said that. At that time, Putin was already set on his invasion rationale, and when he's made a speech two days later, he didn't even mention that Ukraine literally has gone rogue like NK. But Zelensky is not merely a puppet. Also, he's constantly on drugs, so he's not acting rationally. I'm sure this frustrates his curators to no end :-)
| to me it's become obvious by now that they're really trying to bait Russia or China into another Pearl Harbor
| the difference is this time everyone involved has nukes
| also I agree with Mearsheimer's talk last week that Zelensky is basically held at gunpoint by his western handlers
| or rather the Ukrainian nationalists which are doing all the dirty work
| he did actually try to enact the Minsk 2 accord when he was elected but was blocked by the nationalists
| and the West is not allowing him to strike any sort of deal with Russia to stop the fighting
| how one of the Ukrainian diplomats at the Minsk talks was suddenly executed for "treason" was probably a warning
| it's crazy how our media just let that one slide
| no questions asked
Heck I noticed that too, and I'm in America. But I don't agree that Zelensky only does what he's told. He's constantly lashing out against his puppet masters. Remember how _before the invasion_ Joe Biden told him not to go to Munich? He went there anyway, and then publicly denounced Budapest and promised that Ukraine will build own nuclear weapons. He literally said that. At that time, Putin was already set on his invasion rationale, and when he's made a speech two days later, he didn't even mention that Ukraine literally has gone rogue like NK. But Zelensky is not merely a puppet. Also, he's constantly on drugs, so he's not acting rationally. I'm sure this frustrates his curators to no end :-)
@union If Zelensky was doing what the west wanted, Russia would already have most of the country and Ukraine would be in guerilla warfare tying Russia down like Afghanistan in the 80's, and holding it there until its death throes from demographic collapse and all of their technical staff dying off because they stopped educating them long enough ago that the trained engineers on all of their military equipment are hitting the life expectancy age for the country. Ukraine holding them off wasn't what the west wanted or expected.
@union They were hoping to contain the thrashing the country did as it was dying off... now they don't know what will be wrecked as it happens.
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