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🐧sima🐧 sima@chaos.social

lol my dear employer's IT departement telling me to order a new laptop because windows 10 is eol and apparently they can't upgrade that stuff ...

meanwhile the linux machines here very much only get retired when the hardware is dead or just too old

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@sima Oh, please. Try to run anything on i686. I could see that point if you tried to present a BSD as the savior if the obsolete computers.

Kazriko kazriko
@pro @sima After a certain point, old machines get relegated from Linux duty, to Haiku, NetBSD, or Hurd duty. The oldest machine I have active around here is an Asus EEE901 running Haiku 32bit, though I have a couple of inactive machines that are loaded with AtariBasic.
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Kazriko kazriko
@pro @sima (Though, If you really want to do Linux on a pre-64 x86, there's PsychOS still, they just stick to a version of the kernel that still has i686 support.)

🐧sima🐧 sima@chaos.social

@kazriko @pro what exactly are you talking about? yeah some distros dropped i686 support, but some still have it and upstream defo still has it since we're still running latest dev trees on 32bit only machines in CI

also for desktop it's the same userspace anyway from fd.o that make things run ...

Kazriko kazriko
@sima @pro Most distros have dropped i686 already, and the few that are left are very nerdish distros like Devuan and Debian. Not exactly something that I'd turn a beginner user loose on. Most of the popular desktop environments are too fat for an old 4gig system as well. Those developing for it are mostly targeting higher end stuff, so desktop apps on linux are getting less and less optimized. Sure, you can make linux fit a tiny old system, but it's getting harder.

🐧sima🐧 sima@chaos.social

@kazriko @pro the claim was that linux can't run i686 anymore, which is blatant nonsense

that running about 20 year old systems (amd's K8 is that old, yes) isn't entirely mainstream anymore is about the most unsurprising realization ever

and don't tell me haiku and *bsd are mainstream while debian somehow is too niche to even consider

Kazriko kazriko
@sima @pro No, it's just that I use Haiku on those systems because everything I use Haiku for runs fast, while linux apps, being developed on much faster systems, tend to run slow on the slower systems.