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Well Google decided I can’t email my wife anymore.

Guess email is truly dead.

@requiem ? how did that work?

@gemlog they just decided to block mail from my server today.

@requiem Oh wait. My old college room mate has a hotmail address. If I send from one domain - which goog and everyone else likes, not on a blackhole list - microsoft rejects it. Send from another domain and it likes it.

@keithzg
That whole industry of mailchimp assholes is the result.
I'd have a site, say a non-profit, like a ski club, one newsletter a month and maybe the odd stray one outside it and either/and/or goog/msoft or yahoo would give me grief over the number of mails they'd take in 24hrs or w/e. And i'm talking like little groups of 2-300 members of all opted in, asked for the mails skiers or church goers or whatever.
no complaints, no blackholes, nothing.
@requiem

@gemlog at the end of the day, gmail is just a proprietary mail system with a broken smtp gateway. Our choice is to join them, let them read our email and share it with advertisers, train LLM’s whatever they want or risk them randomly interfering with our communications.

Thinking about it overnight I think our time is best spent building a new mail system on a network that can’t be so easily captured by predatory corporations like Google.

I’m thinking #vmail - a mail system that uses @VeilidNetwork as a transport. Distributed like email used to be, and running on even lightweight, intermittently connected nodes the way email was supposed to work in the first place.
@keithzg

@requiem Ahh sorry dude

@requiem Now you got to hack them, make them think you're some big ISP get a reverse dns hostname going, submit the ip to have different geoip data and get unclassified as residential

@reconbot I used to fight them this way, and it was fun, but now I’m just planning to leap over the whole thing. #vmail

@requiem I'd use that but it would probably be to talk to you 😂

@reconbot weirdly it would probably be the most mainstream thing I work on in my free time 🤣

@requiem I'm working on a nerdsnipe for you

@reconbot my kryptonite!

@gemlog I do all those things, and they still randomly block me.

I’m getting to old to waste my time playing games with Google. I’d rather spend it making them obsolete 😇

@kazriko @MMRnmd @keithzg @VeilidNetwork

@requiem
Totally agree :))
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