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BSDs or even Plan9 are becoming a more viable option for me on a monthly basis. The level of politics and shooting itself in the foot Linux does is increasing rapidly. Not to mention how LF has become a complete and utter joke.

https://lore.kernel.org/all/2024101835-tiptop-blip-09ed@gregkh/

@phnt Nothing can make BSD viable (unfortunately).

@zaitcev @phnt it would have tons of drivers and hardware support if it wasn't under a cuck license. Companies using BSD don't have to share the code for their drivers, so they don't. RIP

@get @phnt @zaitcev The BSD license is a big part of why it fails. In addition, not having anything good save for ZFS is a part. And finally, it's too late. I think that it was possible to save BSD 20 years ago with a concerted community-building effort, on top of a suitable license. But not anymore.

@pro @get @phnt @zaitcev

This post convinced me, going full OBSD asap.

@cvnt @phnt @zaitcev @get Better than MacOS, I guess.

@pro @phnt @zaitcev @get Eh, I still enjoy using it, FreeBSD makes a much better file server than Linux. Linux, you never know if ZFS will be working after an update, since the devs of the kernel are fairly hostile to zfs. They keep failing whenever they try to make a zfs replacement too. bcachefs and btrfs are both garbage.

@pro @phnt @zaitcev @get I have to wonder though, if it's only because of the license, then why doesn't Illumos do better? It has a much more restrictive, GPL-ish license, it does allow one company to use it like BSD, but everyone else is stuck. It also has a much more mature OS base than FreeBSD and includes ZFS, yet its drivers are much worse and it doesn't nearly have the same level of support as the BSDs and Linux.
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@kazriko @phnt @zaitcev @get Garrett is my team lead and I can ask. Keep in mind though, big chunks of Illumos are under CDDL. Its primary feature is being GPL-incompatible.